Why does Lee specify primers?

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Blake
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Why does Lee specify primers?

Postby Blake » Sun Mar 11, 2012 9:19 am

I went to my LGS, got my 45 acp tips and went to buy CCI primers. They didn't have any and due to Lee saying don't use Winchester or Fed. I left with none. In a pinch I previously bought 5K SPP from Wideners but they took 9 days just to pack and ship. Never again.

So why no Win or Fed primers? Thanks guys.

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Re: Why does Lee specify primers?

Postby dglock » Sun Mar 11, 2012 11:57 am

Blake wrote:I went to my LGS, got my 45 acp tips and went to buy CCI primers. They didn't have any and due to Lee saying don't use Winchester or Fed. I left with none. In a pinch I previously bought 5K SPP from Wideners but they took 9 days just to pack and ship. Never again.

So why no Win or Fed primers? Thanks guys.


Did you get stock market "tips"?

don

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Postby Windturbineman » Sun Mar 11, 2012 2:48 pm

I have used thousands of Fed and Win primers in my LM with no issues.

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Postby myloadm61 » Sun Mar 11, 2012 7:02 pm

I believe Lee says to only use CCI or Winchester. All others they say to only put 10 primers in the tray and to use the explosion shield. I believe that recommendation is in the LM instructions.

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Postby magic mike » Sun Mar 11, 2012 8:30 pm

Mr. myloadm61 is correct. Here it is verbatim right off the Loadmaster instruction manual.

"Only CCI or Remington brand primers are safe to use with this tool unless you have the optional explosion deflector. Other brands, especially
Federal primers, explode with such force that serious injury can occur with their use. Primer Explosion Deflector PN 90363 must be used with all brands of primers other than CCI or Remington."

It doesn't say you can't use Federal or Winchester primers. It says that if you do use them be sure and protect yourself by installing the explosion deflector.

Words have meaning gentlemen.

mike

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Postby Smitty62 » Sun Mar 11, 2012 8:55 pm

I noticed that Lee used to recommend either CCI or Winchester but they changed it to CCI or Remington. I wonder what changed?

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Postby prs » Sun Mar 11, 2012 11:23 pm

I thought my cheese had slipped off the cracker. I believe my book also says Winchester and CCI are the permissible primers. I have a preferrance for Winchester as the lead content is supposed to be less or nil. I have used Federals when the Obama scare depleated stocks of others, but I did install the shield. I have no recollecton of any warning to use only 10 or less in the tray. I guess I will have to go back and read the "destructions".

prs

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Postby myloadm61 » Mon Mar 12, 2012 12:27 am

The three original instruction booklet that came with three of my LM specify CCI or Winchester. I have not looked at the instructions on the Lee site, so they may have changed. I also am not able to find the reference about no more than 10 primers in the tray of other brands. I will, in the interest of possibly stating erroneous info, retract that comment until I can find the reference.

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Postby myloadm61 » Mon Mar 12, 2012 12:38 am

Just looked at Lee website and lo and behold they HAVE changed from CCI and Winchester to CCI and Remington. Makes you wonder doesn't it? I've used CCI, Winchester, Federal, Remington, Wolf and Magtech and not had a problem with any of them.
Anyone have any bad or adverse experiences with any :?: :?:

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Postby Blake » Mon Mar 12, 2012 12:13 pm

Thanks guys. I've assumed that the non recommended primer brands might be more hazardous due to some design issue with the LM. But I think the warnings are in all my different die instructions.

So now I ask, has anyone here had any mishaps using sny primers of any brand? I'm up to 10 or 15K, and not one problem yet, knock on wood. Thanks

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Postby prs » Mon Mar 12, 2012 12:43 pm

Way back when I first got my LM used and it had a cracked carrier that led to some tipped primers, I had a CCI-350 "POP" while being mangled into the pocket. Made my ears ring a bit, no harm other than to the slider.

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Postby 1911A1 » Tue Mar 13, 2012 8:04 pm

I like to live dangerously, I dont use anything except Winchester primers and I laugh at their "explosion shield". :lol:


Seriously I have mangled primers to the point they were crying, and I have only ever had 1 go off (and that was in a dillon) :wink:

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Postby prs » Tue Mar 13, 2012 11:34 pm

Dang! 1911!

A primer pop in a Dillon tube fed can be a real bomb! My use of the Lee shield is very recent and I have used quite a few cases of WW small pistol primers and even more WW large pistol primers. I forget about the shield so it really seems not to obstruct operaton.

prs

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Postby myloadm61 » Tue Mar 13, 2012 11:47 pm

I have the explosion shield on each of my LM and like prs says, you don't really notice them after they're installed. I look at it as real cheap insurance.

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Postby Jumping Frog » Tue Mar 13, 2012 11:58 pm

myloadm61 wrote:I have the explosion shield on each of my LM and like prs says, you don't really notice them after they're installed. I look at it as real cheap insurance.

Yes, I think every LM installation should use the explosion shield. There is no valid argument to not use it.


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