Only CCI or REMINGTON brand primers are safe to use

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Frodo9mm
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Only CCI or REMINGTON brand primers are safe to use

Postby Frodo9mm » Sun Mar 30, 2014 8:19 pm

Folks:

I know the LM manual states "Only CCI or REMINGTON brand primers are safe to use".

What makes other brand primers unsafe?
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Re: "Only CCI or REMINGTON brand primers are safe to us

Postby erle » Sun Mar 30, 2014 8:26 pm

What makes other brand primers unsafe?


It is my understanding that other brands are made of thinner metal & will accidentally fire easier. :lol:

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Postby myloadm61 » Sun Mar 30, 2014 9:00 pm

I use all brands and the only one I have ever had go off was CCI, happened two different times,once set off 2 or 3 primers and the second time set of all that were in the trough or as near as I could tell. I think it has a lot to do with what has caused the primer to go off.

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Postby tnmedic » Mon Mar 31, 2014 9:07 pm

and doesn't that statement continue with "unless you are using the blast shield" on the load master?

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Postby curlysir » Mon Mar 31, 2014 10:11 pm

I checked the lnstruction that came with my LM and the one I downloaded in November of 2011.

They both state "Only Winchester or CCI brand primers are safe to use unless you have installed the optional explosion deflector."

The current Instructions on the Lee site have replaced Winchester with Remington.

Did Winchester change their primers? and if so when did they make the changes that Lee doesn't like?

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Postby Frodo9mm » Mon Mar 31, 2014 10:20 pm

Yes it does state use a blast shield. I plan to install the blast shield as soon as it comes in.

It is interesting b/c I have been reloading shotgun shells for over 25 years and thankfully, never had an incident with primers.

One of my 9MM's likes the federal primer the best and occasionally experiences a FTF using CCI's.

As far Win vs Remington, I will have to look and see what my manual states.

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Postby Frodo9mm » Mon Mar 31, 2014 10:30 pm

The LLM Manual I have is Copyright 2011 and states use only Remington or CCI.... I bought the LLM new online last month. Interesting...

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Postby curlysir » Tue Apr 01, 2014 12:44 pm

Frodo9mm wrote:The LLM Manual I have is Copyright 2011 and states use only Remington or CCI.... I bought the LLM new online last month. Interesting...


The one I downloaded had a 2008 date.

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Postby GhostlyOne » Tue Apr 01, 2014 4:49 pm

As I recall, IIRC, CCI primers have a reputation of being a "hard" primer. The only experience I have, and I use CCI exclusively now, is that I had "slam fires" with the Remington primers I used when I started out reloading. I wound up changing the firing pin spring, firing pin and still had the problem. Went to CCI primers and the problem did not recur. The gun was a used Beretta Cheetah. I still have it and have put many thousands of rounds thru it without any further problems.

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natchez

Postby carload9 » Tue Apr 01, 2014 6:34 pm

I bought 11 thousand tula primers from natchez in last 4 months, they are incredible s pistol primers. Cci were agrivating sometimes in llm,, winchester too.
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Postby Sparky45 » Tue Apr 01, 2014 6:58 pm

I bought Tula primers cause they were all I could get. Found out I really like them, they always go bang.

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Postby fmj3 » Wed Apr 02, 2014 10:26 pm

I will third the tula small pistol (and small rifle) primers - run great thru the LLM and my firearms. Gone through about 6k of them so far.

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Postby Frodo9mm » Thu Apr 03, 2014 9:11 am

I will have to try the Tula primers. Thx.

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yep

Postby carload9 » Thu Apr 03, 2014 9:27 am

call natchez or midway and find some one to go half wid ya! That way ya split tax and hazmat. buy 5000 or 10,000 an split. GREAT VALUE.

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Postby Sparky45 » Thu Apr 03, 2014 9:52 am

Lord, as much as this pains me to say, CL is right on with this one.


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