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Old .22 rifle question

Postby darwin » Thu Mar 24, 2016 8:08 am

I have a bolt action .22 rifle I have had since I was a kid. I think I bought it from somebody in the neighborhood. It is in my gun safe and it is a pain to get to, so I am going to go by memory.

I think it is a Western Auto brand, but it also has another brand name on it, Remington, I believe.

The odd thing is, it doesn't have a serial number on it. When did serial numbers become required?

I remember sanding down the stock and refinishing it - when I was 13 or 14.

My dad had a bolt action .22 rifle he bought in the 1920s. One of my brothers ended up with it and sold it for $20. I never have gotten over that one.

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Postby erle » Thu Mar 24, 2016 9:38 am

Darwin, I have an old Remington, single shot, .22 without any serial number. It is a model 514. It could be the same model that Remington made for Western Auto.

Firearm serial numbers were not required until 1968 so I assume that is when Remington began using them. Before that they used a date code. My rifle has a date code of 0 TT stamped on the side, which means mine was manufactured in July of 1948.

If your rifle has a date code stamped on the left side, I think I still have the info somewhere to tell the exact date.

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Postby darwin » Thu Mar 24, 2016 2:53 pm

It says

Revelation - Model 110

Western Auto Supply Co.
CAL.22 S-L-LR

Those are th ONLY markings on it. It has a Weaver B4 scope on it, too. I don't remember if it had that on it when I got it or not.

Mine has a tubular feed.

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Postby darwin » Thu Mar 24, 2016 2:56 pm

This says it was made by Savage

http://gun-data.com/western_auto_revelation.html

But this one says it was made by Marlin

http://www.thefirearmsforum.com/threads/revelation-110.31040/

This guy's looks just like mine except it was single shot. Made in 1935

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=glr1osbDrGU

THIS one is exactly like mine. He says it is a Marlin Model 81

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tr6U-130NZY

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Postby erle » Fri Mar 25, 2016 12:07 am

Looks like each reference says it is a Marlin 81 so the other name on it must be Marlin. That explains why no Remington date code!

My early model bolt action Remington with tubular feed is a model 512. I used it for years as my squirrel hunting rifle. No serial number but only a date code. It is confusing, as it is stamped C B 75.

The C is the Month which is April. The 2nd digit usually stands for the year, but my records show Remington used B for 1933, 1955 & 1981. Bought it used in 1965 so it could be 1933 or 1955. Don't know what the 75 means.

Marlin made a good .22 so looks like you have a good one.

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Postby darwin » Fri Mar 25, 2016 5:09 pm

I wrote to Marlin and asked them if they know anything about it.

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Postby darwin » Fri Mar 25, 2016 6:03 pm

I found this about the Marlin Model 81

The 81DL came out in 1941.

There was no production of sporting firearms at Marlin from 1942 to 1944.

Brophy shows a chart in his book where you can actually count the number of grooves in the Ballards and get a rough estimate of the date. Marlin used 5 grooves up to 1950 and 6 grooves from 1950 to 1953 in the 80/81/88/100 models, not sure how accurate that is, but that’s what he says.

Even though Marlin started putting Microgroove barrels on the 81's in 1953, they continued using Ballard rifling for several years after.

The fact that it’s grooved for mounts should place it no earlier than 1955-1956.

Marlin used dates codes on the barrel from 1962 to 1968.

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Postby Hawkmoon » Sun May 15, 2016 9:26 pm

That's a pretty little rifle.

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Postby darwin » Tue May 17, 2016 9:20 am

Yes, it is. I should probably take it to the range and try it out on the 100 yard range.

Heck, I should probably go to the range period.


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