What are your most and least favorite guns?

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What are your most and least favorite guns?

Postby darwin » Thu Jul 29, 2010 10:36 pm

This topic came up in PMs with citywaterman and it sounded interesting to me.

My most favorites:
Para Ordnance 14-45 stainless steel 1911. Wide body, 14+1. This gun is TIGHT!

Tie for second: Taurus stainless steel .357 with 4" barrel and my Rock Island 1911 - my carry gun with night sights and Crimson Trace grips. It's beat up, but I don't care. This is the pistol my late wife bought me for Christmas, so it has a sentimental value as well.

Least favorites:

FIE .38 Special - nickel plated and a 2" or so barrel. It is what was known as a "Saturday Night Special. I bought it in the mid 70s and it was my only handgun for a long time.

Springfield Champion - this was my first 1911 - a Commander size and I just never thought it shot that well.

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Postby daboone » Fri Jul 30, 2010 9:39 am

Pistol- the ultra reliable BHP and Makarov

Rifle- M1 Carbine for plinking FUN. The Swiss K-31 for accuracy and it's also Swiss Tight.

Least fun? er, uh, well, the one I can't seem to hit the target with that day!

Favorite cartridge to reload 7.62x 54R.

Least favorite cartridge to reload 32ACP. Not a lot of room for error, the sucker is little!

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Re: What are your most and least favorite guns?

Postby Jumping Frog » Fri Jul 30, 2010 12:06 pm

darwin wrote:My most favorites:
Para Ordnance 14-45 stainless steel 1911. Wide body, 14+1. This gun is TIGHT!

That is my favorite as well.

A little gun porn . . .
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I can't say I have a "least favorite" -- I just love guns.

Edited to add: On second thought, I bought a single shot break action Rossi combo for my boys when they were little and learning to shoot. It came with two barrels: .22lr rifle and 20 gauge shotgun.

The little gun was so small and light (under 6 lbs.). My boys couldn't shoot the 20 gauge without flinching and tears, so I tried shooting it. Man, I'd rather shoot my Remington 1100 12 gauge than that little Rossi. I sold it at the next gun show.

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Postby helg » Fri Jul 30, 2010 12:30 pm

Sure it is Makarov.

Very reliable gun. It has just 23 parts, which is less than typical even for a simple single-action revolver, not saying of single/double semi-auto. Generally, the fewer parts a device has, the more reliable it is. The gun can be completely disassembled in a minute using only Makarov cleaning rod as a tool. No brass hammers, no punches are needed. I am not aware of any other pistol like that.

Recoil mashes a cheap trigger guard, not a frame, like in the most semi-autos. You do not have to carefully adjust your loads to a strength of your recoil spring. The gun has a lot of other good engineering decisions, which are usually overseen.

I have learned how to reload with this gun, and made a lot of errors. I had a squib, and it ended up in a bulged barrel, which cost me $30 to replace. I figured out that it is bulged only after I came home and started cleaning the gun. Sure there was some degradation in accuracy and muzzle speed due to the bulge, but the gun was still functioning. With the new barrel it is as accurate as it was before the squib. Note, no other damage to the gun beyond the barrel - thanks to Gadolin method, which is used to reinforce the barrel at the place where the bulging/breaking may be way more dangerous. See, e.g. pictures of Glock kabooms. Even if a kaboom is repairable in the Glock, it is way more expensive than the $30.

No FTFs yet, for many thousand rounds, mostly reloads, with different loads, bullet shapes and OALs. If a round fits into a magazine, it feeds fine. I think it is better to discover the wrong OALs when loading a mag than after pulling a trigger. I have made loads that had FTEs. This was an intentional test on how light it can be loaded, and this load was way below anything practical. No FTEs with regular loads.

I convert 9x19 brass to 9mm Makarov, and when I was starting the conversion, I accidentally tested all possible shell lengths from 19mm to 18mm. The Makarov handled them all in a right way, allowing to fire shells only up to about 18.2mm, which was still safe.

It is accurate by design. 2 thousandths (.05mm) wiggle of a 4" barrel in a slide affects accuracy by about 2" (5cm) at 10yds. The 2 thousandths wiggle is pretty tight for a semi-auto. Most pistols have few times more than that. Makarov has a fixed barrel, therefore no wiggle and no loose of accuracy. Accuracy for an un-tuned Makarov with cheap surplus ammo is R50-25m-3.2cm - i.e. 50% of the shots at 25 meters (27.3yds) fall into a circle with a radius of 3.2 centimeters (1 1/4").

And... this is the only gun that had been in space - on every Soviet spaceship since 1961.

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Postby darwin » Fri Jul 30, 2010 2:26 pm

helg wrote:And... this is the only gun that had been in space - on every Soviet spaceship since 1961.


The cosmonauts carry a gun into space? Why? Are there any on the ISS?

I would think that with their thin walls and that vacuum thing, guns would not be an ideal thing to have.

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Postby helg » Fri Jul 30, 2010 3:17 pm

darwin wrote:
helg wrote:And... this is the only gun that had been in space - on every Soviet spaceship since 1961.
The cosmonauts carry a gun into space? Why? Are there any on the ISS?
I would think that with their thin walls and that vacuum thing, guns would not be an ideal thing to have.
The Makarovs are not holster-carried at speceships for the reason that you have mentioned. They are included in so-called "emergency kit" that is being safely landed with cosmonauts. The kit is carefully packed and weighted, and any change to the kit requires more efforts than initially thought - to maintain the same balance and reliability of the whole ship with limited ability to perform field-testing. Unlike these days, with GPSes, satellite phones, and other tracking systems, in the 60s it was not that easy to find landed cosmonauts. Landings are usually performed in unpopulated areas, where a gun is considered to be useful. Sometimes it took days to find cosmonauts. Makarovs have been included into the kits. I am aware of at least one incident where Makarov from the kit has been used by cosmonauts after landing. This was to attract attention of a search crew that was about to miss them. Needless to say, the Makarov did not fail in this situation.

I do not know whether this has been changed after Soviet Union, and whether the survival kits at the ISS have the Makarov. There may be considerations on that, as not all members of the ISS crews are military servants.

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Postby hk_ump » Sun Dec 12, 2010 4:02 pm

well let me join in

most fav handgun: usp tactical 45.. i love mine, id love a mk23 socom thouhg


fav carbine/subgun ump 45

fav rifle: msg90/psg1


least fav rifle: AR's
handguns: revolvers

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Postby SidecarMike » Wed Dec 15, 2010 6:04 pm

My favorite handgun will always be the Thompson Contender.

Revolver is a 4 inch barreled Model 29 Smith & Wesson
Pistol would be my Beretta 92FS
10/22 Ruger
M1 Carbine
Hi Point 995
Marlin 1895 45-70
Savage 2400 308 over a 12 gauge.
and an old Kmart brand 20 gauge double barrelled coach gun. :D

Least favorite;

S&W 686 with an 8 3/8 inch barrel
Glock 37, 21, or 19. Actually, the only Glock I liked shooting was a 26, but it was too small for my hand.

any bolt action shotgun

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Postby 1911A1 » Sun Dec 19, 2010 1:18 pm

My favorite of all time is pretty much any 1911, here is the one I am in the last stages of building.

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just need to wait for a warm enough 2 days to throw the Aluma Hyde on the grips, and find some time to go trim down the front sight.

in second and close place right now is my Taurus 8 shot .357, I just had the cylinder machined for full moon clips, best gun modification I have ever done to a wheel gun.

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Least favorite, anything with a tupperware frame. :lol:

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Postby Sparky45 » Sun Dec 19, 2010 2:01 pm

1911A1, where did you have the cylinder machined. That Taurus is a beautiful looking gun, how does it run?
Inspired;

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Postby 1911A1 » Sun Dec 19, 2010 2:22 pm

Sparky45 wrote:1911A1, where did you have the cylinder machined. That Taurus is a beautiful looking gun, how does it run?
Inspired;

Gary


I have a friend I met on another forum that is a machinist in Grand Rapid MI, and I talked him into doing it for me, and he did a AWESOME job on it, the clips are from TK customs (stupid expensive, but hes the only one that makes them) it runs perfect, once I put in the reduced power springs from Wolfe, and polished the dickens out of the trigger parts, it is smooth as glass, doesnt stack, and breaks perfectly, I've been shooting little 125 RN through it lately that I get locally with a good drop of AA#5 behind it and it will get out and tap my steel plates at 45 yards, I havent put them on paper yet but my plates are only 12x12 :D I also have a Taurus PT101

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that is my current carry pistol. DA/SA and is also a spot on shooter, with the exception of 1 flier if I do my job it will put all 13 into the ten ring at 15yds off hand.

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Postby Sparky45 » Sun Dec 19, 2010 4:43 pm

They have the Taurus on Gunbroker for $463 as a buy it now price. I'm very tempted. Maybe Santa will suprise me. Ho Ho Ho !!!

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Postby 1911A1 » Sun Dec 19, 2010 5:24 pm

Sparky45 wrote:They have the Taurus on Gunbroker for $463 as a buy it now price. I'm very tempted. Maybe Santa will suprise me. Ho Ho Ho !!!


not a bad price at all the moon clips were $60 per 10 and the machining cost me another $60 including postage both ways (I only sent him the cylinder and crane assembly) and these clips are a lot thicker than others I have used in the past on .45's and even SW .357's that came from the custom shop. all in all I have less than 0 regret about 100% voiding of my warranty :lol:

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Postby Horseman » Tue Feb 01, 2011 9:17 pm

My favorite that I own is a Redhawk 4in 45 colt, second would probably be a 5 1/2in Bisley blackhawk. I prefer revolvers as I think they are inherently more dependable. I've owned a few autos, 2 different Kimbers and a beautiful two tone Browning Hi Power in 9mm along with various 22lrs. The Kimbers were early models and fine guns, good looking and accurate, but carrying something cocked and locked made me very uncomfortable. I know everyone just adores the 1911 platforms but I wouldn't own another one. IF... I were to purchase another auto it would probably be a Sig. Arguably the best pistol made. Notice I didn't say best looking..possibly an HK.

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Postby darwin » Tue Feb 01, 2011 10:16 pm

Cocked and locked is safe. You have the grip safety AND a thumb safety.


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